Differences with toki pona (2024)

Toki ma is based on another conlang, toki pona. But as the objectives of each language are different, there are some differences between them, some small, some big.

Phonology

Phonology of toki ma is almost exactly as that of toki pona. The main difference is that the eight forbidden syllables in toki pona (ji, wo, wu, ti, jin, won, wun and tin) are allowed in toki ma, but not used in the dictionary except for wo, ti and tin.

In toki pona only li exists. Its only functions there are to separate the subject and the verb, or one predicate from the next. In toki ma it marks the imperfective aspect of the verb, while le marks the perfective. And while li is ommited both in toki pona and toki ma after first and second person pronouns, le is never ommited.

Pronouns

Toki pona only has three personal pronouns: mi, sina and ona, that can be both singular and plural. Toki ma splits them into singular (mi, si, on) and plural (mina, sina, ona).

la and ita

Topic is marked in toki pona with la, with the construnction [topic] la [main clause]. Toki ma uses it the same way, but has another word, ita, to put the topic after the sentence: [main clause] ita [topic].

Numbers

The number system in toki pona is almost non existing. That makes sense for a philoshophical language focused on simplifying thoughts and communication, but for an international auxlang numbers are necessary. The only (proper) numbers in toki pona are wan and tu; there is an extended number system which uses luka as five, mute as twenty and ale/ali as one hundred. Other numbers are created by repetition; for example, one hundred and forty eight would be ale mute mute luka tu wan. This is only practical for very small numbers, and can be ambiguous: if you say mi pana e mani Mewika ale tawa sina, do you mean I'm giving you one hundred dollars, or I'm giving you all the dollars?

Relative clauses

There are no relative clauses in toki pona; when toki ma uses the particle te, toki pona would use separate sentences, probably with the construction e ni or similar. For example, the toki ma mi lukin e jan te moku e kili - I see a man eating fruit, would be mi lukin e ni: jan li moku e kili in toki pona.

Comparatives and superlatives

Toki pona does not have a comparative or superlative construction. The most similar construction for the comparative splits the sentence into two sentences, and applies lili or mute: where toki ma says mi wawa alen sina, toki pona would say sina wawa lili. mi wawa mute.

Noun classes

In toki pona is mandatory to use proper names as adjectives (mi jan Sepeku tan ma Kanata), while in toki ma is optional if it is clear by the context (mi Sepeku tan Kanata).

Prepositions

In toki pona there are only five prepositions: kepeken, lon, sama, tan and tawa; and all of them are also lexical words. That can create ambiguities like mi pana e tomo tawa sina - I give you my car, if tawa is an adjective, or I give your house, if it is a preposition. To avoid this prepositions in toki ma are not used as lexical word, but are a closed word class. Of the toki pona prepositions only tan is kept in toki ma; an old preposition, kan, that dissapeared in one of the firsts versions of toki pona, is recovered, replacing kepeken; lon is replaced with in, sama with se and tawa with ki; a new preposition, alen, is added. The other prepositions in toki pona remain only as lexical words in toki ma.

Words

Both toki pona and toki ma have a limited number of words; but as toki pona tries to be as minimalist as possible, many common words don't have an equivalent. And while toki ma also tries to be minimalist, it has many words that could be created by compounding. For example, in toki pona car/vehicle is usually said tomo tawa (lit. moving structure), while in toki ma there is the word kali meaning the same. This simplifies other compounds, too: in toki pona, boat is usually said tomo tawa telo (lit. water moving structure), while in toki ma it would be kali telo (lit. water vehicle).

Differences with toki pona (2024)

FAQs

Differences with toki pona? ›

Both toki pona and toki ma have a limited number of words; but as toki pona tries to be as minimalist as possible, many common words don't have an equivalent. And while toki ma also tries to be minimalist, it has many words that could be created by compounding.

What is the difference between Toki Ma and toki pona? ›

Toki Ma did not aim to improve on Toki Pona and make it "better", but to adapt and repurpose it for a different goal. It aimed to be an international auxiliary language instead of a philosophical language, but to retain the minimalist and easy-to-learn qualities of Toki Pona.

What syllables are banned in toki pona? ›

The following sequences are not allowed: */wu, wo, ji, ti/, nor may a syllable's final nasal occur before /m/ or /n/ in the same root. Proper nouns are usually converted into Toki Pona proper adjectives using a set of guidelines.

Is toki pona the easiest language to learn? ›

Toki Pona is by no means an easy language to master. It does, however, have a very low entry level as compared to natural languages.

How long does it take to be fluent in toki pona? ›

How long does it take to learn Toki Pona? Since it has simple grammar and a limited vocabulary, Toki Pona is relatively easy to learn. It is estimated that it takes roughly 30 hours to master the language. And not only is the vocabulary small, but the origins of many words are easy to identify.

What does NASA mean in Toki Pona? ›

The etymology of "nasa" in toki pona is unrelated to NASA. It comes from the Tok Pisin word nasau meaning 'dim-witted; crazy'. Also note that jan Sonja clarified in ku that nasa as an adjective means "weird, strange, unusual, odd, drunk, silly, wild, psychoactive" to avoid ableist language.

What does Wawa mean in Toki Pona? ›

to strengthen, energize, empower.

What are the negatives in toki pona? ›

In English you make a verb negative by adding doesn't or don't in front of the it, like in the sentence, "We don't talk." However, Toki Pona's negative word, ala, goes after the verb. mi lape ala. = "I'm not sleeping." (literally: "I sleep not.")

What language is smaller than toki pona? ›

Smallest Conlangs
Conlang NameBase Word CountExtra Notes
Tuki Tiki39Tuki Tiki doesnt have a wikia page. Proof: Tuki Tiki
Irotsu59
Toki Pata89Archive here
Sinpa99
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Is toki pona an actual language? ›

Toki Pona is a constructed language. Sonja Lang, a Canadian translator and linguist, made this language. The words toki pona mean "good language" or "simple language".

What's the 4 hardest language to learn? ›

The Hardest Languages To Learn For English Speakers
  1. Mandarin Chinese. Interestingly, the hardest language to learn is also the most widely spoken native language in the world. ...
  2. Arabic. ...
  3. Polish. ...
  4. Russian. ...
  5. Turkish. ...
  6. Danish.

What is the number 3 hardest language to learn? ›

The 3 hardest languages to learn include Mandarin, Arabic, and Russian. However, with the right strategies, overcoming these obstacles and succeeding in international markets is possible.

Can you learn Toki Pona in one day? ›

toki pona isn't a thing you can learn in a day, but you can still learn part of it in a day. It's a journey, and the journey for learning toki pona is unique and unlike any other language I've encountered.

Is Toki Pona growing? ›

Since its initial creation, Toki Pona has evolved into a living language, adopting several new words, grammar features, and a growing community of speakers. Today, there are thousands of Toki Pona speakers around the world.

How many people know Toki Pona? ›

From the responses, more than 650 people reported to know toki pona - 165 of which stated to be advanced speakers.

What language is smaller than Toki Pona? ›

Smallest Conlangs
Conlang NameBase Word CountExtra Notes
Tuki Tiki39Tuki Tiki doesnt have a wikia page. Proof: Tuki Tiki
Irotsu59
Toki Pata89Archive here
Sinpa99
5 more rows

Is Toki Pona an actual language? ›

Toki Pona is a constructed language. Sonja Lang, a Canadian translator and linguist, made this language. The words toki pona mean "good language" or "simple language".

What language is Toki Ma? ›

Toki Ma is an International Auxiliary Language (IAL). It was based on Toki Pona, a minimalist language created by Sonja Lang. Much of Toki Ma's vocabulary, grammar, and style also derive from Toki Pona. Toki Ma was created to better serve the goal of being an International Auxiliary Language.

Is Toki A Boy or a girl? ›

Toki is a gender-neutral name of Japanese origin that can have a variety of meanings, depending on which kanji is used to write it.

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